hello I'm Gareth and phones and tablets editor
I'm cane and I'm computing editor and we've got the ipad pro and the surface
pro 4 here and we're gonna be giving them a good run down comparison
I've been using the ipad pro for about two weeks and you've been using the
probable that way
yep so we're really really good idea of how they work how good they are and just
give you a chance to decide which one is right for you
so in terms of design and I mean I don't think that Microsoft would be able to
make surface pro 3 that much thinner but the surface pro 4 is lighter it like sex
birthrate feels really nice in the hand but even more so cuz it's a little bit
thinner
this time around it's okay . fall down from mine . millimeters and it's just
make sure just get out really nice
chamfered edges that makes it nice and hold weather in portrait or landscape
mode
it's a bit little bit too heavy for holding it in just one hand yeah and I
mean if you just SAT back and got it in both hands and you could you could hold
it for an extended period that's too many problems
yeah you see that the same with the ipad pro for me what you think it's a little
bit thinner than the ipad in the surface pro 4 again you can't hold this in a
single amplitude on it's just the beginning the balance is really good you
know the battery is clearly quite central and it
it sits really nicely into hands in one hand you you can do it for about two or
three minutes but you're not gonna do it one want to go over to Don with the ipad
pro at the thing here is the difference for me the two is this is a tablet with
laptop ask abilities and this is a laptop with tablet s capacity the lack
of mouse is probably the biggest thing for the issue of this
I don't like you've got a desk you want to get a mouse out because i hate the
tap tap
maybe hand it doesn't you know it there's no idea that is the whole touch
me as a touch but even little things like being able to move the cursor
around with him text it's just really annoying to do and ipad pro whereas
again you've got the trackpad there
everything about that but I pads are designed for curses that's just the way
it is in the macbook territory
that's it and then when we obviously microsoft has put - 10 on the year and
surface profile and one of the most of advantages but this one compared to
three windows 10 devices is the universal apps
in addition of the tablet note and within Windows 10 as for example you can
open up the kindle app swipe in from the right and you've got a button there
click it and maximizes the full screen and get rid of the taskbar and it just
makes it into a lot more and usable tablet experience this time around the
idea that soon as you say use your tablet that thing is in the usual tablet
its Windows 10 is still just terrible was a tablet mode in and that's I don't
think you know the UI is fine i am still I still like what Apple does in the ipad
people say that you know iOS is just a bigger phone us and which is but it
works better on tablet it's just better to do stuff
windows you've got all this you know all the tiles which is great it looked great
but then you get to apps and there's nothing there's just so little there and
yeah you can switch into the desktop mode but then it starts getting a bit
fiddly and other not just really the standard tablet experience
there's no competition it's a professional use
I mean we gotta remember this is a tablet that can replace your laptop it
was a full version of Windows add that you can run all of the legacy apps out
there anything you can download from the internet it will run on this and I mean
you got USB port again makes it easy for file transferring files onto it and but
due to the power into the hood you got for intel core processor processes in
there so you can run photo editing video editing even a bit of cat and although
you'd want to watch for the version with a higher amount of ram and so it's
really fully fledged computer for for pretty much doing anything you can do it
on a regular laptop
there's an adult and very few limitations there which em back
even though the ipods you know get a lot more enterprise apps i would you say
that this
come on in terms of professional way it's not fresh tablet
it's not at all what I can't even understand why it's being angry that way
other than just for marketing iOS is so limited in what it in what you can do
and that's kind of his strength and his weakness because the idea about ipads
being good as you can do this thing and you can do this thing you can do this
thing and yeah you can split screen mode but that's not really multitasking it's
just doing two things at the same time and I is the definition of multitasking
I know but there yesterday
yeah you can't run things in the background you can't switch to windows
it's just basically you can do this what you can do this
and so when it comes to me even adobe said I know the ipad pro isn't there to
replace what creation creatives use right now but it's a really good
accessory and that's what it is
I find this one to be slightly more I don't know just it is intuitive but it
just feels more natural with in it like you know the pencil depend on the end to
rub things out is good but the clicking and the press that button that
everything I found it was really hard to get my head around compared to just this
with different pressure that was what do you think I mean I think this is really
handy if you're traveling around surface and your armies to take some quick notes
with 10 just give it clicking out but yeah I mean that's pretty fluid I'm can
you change the app so you can use the double click or just one just one
ok yeah and I mean the neighborhood it feels ok it's right on ethics makes
officers change the article on the stack is less space between the year the
sensors in the display so it does feel a lot more like your writing directly on a
pan and but I haven't tried in birth
I get the impression that this just that little bit more finesse in need in the
Apple pencil
yes it's got a degree that we can write the side and do different strokes it's
not even that it's just type of just writing normally in the empower
rejection all that kind of stuff that doesn't get in the way it just it feels
more natural me nothing is going to replace right of the screen on a piece
of paper but it's just easier to to to take notice to make different things
only amount that's already there coming up we can use the pencil mean this is
going to go crazy you know the paper and then adobe sketchbook and all these
kinds of different things that allowed to really high and stuff and I feel like
photoshop fixing stuff just with this but again it's just like it's a lite
version of the big effort you can do a proper laptop
I mean that's it when you get photoshop and by now over there have all got
built-in support therefore therefore the stylus is on the surface devices and
that started out the DPI problems for using the the absolute high resolutions
and I know a lot of artists got on board with the surface pro 3 image and some
professional assets like a game from penny arcade and i think i think the
sets profile is going to continue in that direction
great thing about the ipad pro for me is that instead of having a full massive
battery in each of these speakers is now three times louder than a single ipad
air 2 simply because the speaker terms a bigger there's lots more volume going to
and yet it doesn't seem to lose anything in terms of sound quality
if anything is better and it's actually one of the most I don't know although
was one of the best quality devices the scene around
so in terms of the overall music and movie experience i mean if you use that
for any films on so far
yeah well watched a bit of street with netflix on it and I mean one of the best
things about this device for the same as its display which is just really brian
is right around the region 17 x which is really bright for a tablet device yet
which produces really clear images really rich colors and the same industry
on full brightness it is it's almost too bright in a darkened room
yeah I found myself using it 75 cent brightness and when watching Netflix
it just looks great the sound ok maybe not as good as the ipod but just with
screen filled with content and from a good distance it looks really great to
watch things up but one of the advantages of the multiplication
kickstand like the ipod is that you can actually put it a different degree
angles
yeah I'm so if you standing on a table at the bottom of your room you can have
it more kind of more than our angle and artists close to you on the table you
can have a flatter something out of a big advantage of this one
yeah and I mean for me the iPad I've watched so many films on it on this
train even though I've got your phone or your tablet they could do the same thing
okay thanks for listening i think we've covered exactly what we want to see from
both these tablets for me i can't see past the ipad pro and Windows 10 is
still too much of a hot mess in terms of the things you could do a desktop and
tablet its way to functional for a tablet hybrid
this is simplicity itself and that's what you want well I couldn't disagree
more I think that this is the ultimate of edge style tablet this is so thin and
light which light of the in terms of laptops out there can do so much more
with it including a ton of tablet things that the ipod produce their therefore I
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