- Hello, my beautiful babies!
It's Michelle Visage.
Welcome back to another episode of "Whatcha Packin'"!
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Joining me today is Rock M. Sakura!
Hey, Rock M.!
- Hi!
It's me, human sadness.
- It's you, human sadness.
(mock sobs)
- [Rock M.] I cried a lot on the show.
- You know, let's talk about that for a minutes.
Season 12
(Rock M. sighs) is the season of wailers.
You were the first one.
So when you went home, we heard you wailing
all the way down the parking lot, just like,
aah, like a church cry.
- It was a very, very emotional time for me,
for a lot of reasons.
The whole time I was lip-syncing,
I was trying so hard to get Ru to look at me at least once.
I mean, honestly, she was really just
transfixed on Brita the whole time.
And so, I pulled out everything, I pulled out
all the stops, I tried to lip-sync my heart out.
I've been trying to wrap my brain around
why I was crying so much, and those are tears
that I failed to cry before the show.
- [Michelle] Aww.
- And tears that I failed to cry while I was here.
When you lip-sync on the show,
it feels like you're drowning and Ru only has
one life jacket or the ability to save one person.
But in that moment, too, it also kinda felt like,
"I already know who she's gonna save."
You might've seen it on stage.
I had a lot of moments where I was
a little scared to go up against Brita--
- Mm-hm. - Because everybody
knows her name, everybody on Reddit,
everybody's like, "I want Brita this season,"
Brita, Brita, Brita, Brita, Brita,
"We want her to win," and I'm just this kinda
Podunk kid, no one knows my name, and--
- Well, they do now.
- I mean, they do now, because they want to be able
to diagnose what they have in their psychosis.
- Let's talk about your time on "Drag Race."
- Yes! - Did you have a good time?
- Right before I started lip-syncing,
I was like, "Just imagine your happy place,"
and I just imagined being back
in the Werk Room with all the girls.
- [Michelle] That's your happy place?
- [Rock M.] I have had the most fun and the most anxiety
and sadness, but also the most fun
in my entire life here on the show.
Everybody here has been so fun, working with everyone.
The challenges were really fun.
I love that we got to do an improv challenge.
- Yeah. - I'm sad I went home
on a design challenge, but I love making stuff.
- Good.
- And honestly, I had the time of my life here.
I mean, if I ever got to do it again--
- Yes? - If I ever got
the opportunity, then I would have even more fun,
and that's all I would remember.
- Did you make some friends?
- I made so many friends.
- Who'd you get close with?
- Right now, I'm really close with Dahlia and Nicky,
and I also got very close with Jan.
Jan left me a big letter
when I left-- - Aww.
- And she was my hotel buddy, so I'd knock
on the wall every now and then, just to, we'd be like,
"Are you okay?" and I'd be like, "Yeah, I'm okay."
- People don't realize that you guys
are sequestered, and it's a lonely thing,
and, you know, we do that so you guys
can kind of think and prepare and be,
and of course, the whole conversation
really needs to take place on camera--
- Yeah. - So we need you guys
not to talk to each other, because
it changes relationships--
- Yeah. - And then you
kind of let it all go in the Werk Room,
and it's just magic. - Yeah, I mean,
I had fun doing everything.
I do regret a lot of things, like my verse.
I regret doing a character because I feel like,
in a sense, I was hiding.
I feel like, my whole run, I was just like,
"If I had just told them more of who I was,
"then I feel like I would be getting a better reception."
- That was the point.
That was the point of that rap.
And that's how I took it, I took it legit, like,
I wanna read and hear a rap about you and who you are.
You don't have to regret.
Living in regret is not gonna pay your bills,
you know what I mean? - It might.
- You, no, you are gonna end up being fantastic.
I'm not worried about you.
You're chatty, you have a special something to you.
I think that people are going to fall
in love with you, Rock M.,
like I did. - It's depression.
- It's, (laughs) shut up.
Let's talk about your outfits here.
Let's talk about this kinda churchy, Sacred Heart,
Sacre Coeur, "Tell-Tale Heart" number,
or am I reading it all wrong?
- [Rock M.] This is kind of a ghosty,
black kind of bride outfit.
- [Michelle] Mm-hm.
- [Rock M.] I live in an old converted nunnery.
I live in an artist commune.
- [Michelle] In the Tenderloin.
- [Rock M.] In Lower Haight.
- [Michelle] Okay.
- [Rock M.] We have 23 other people in my house.
- [Michelle] Okay.
- [Rock M.] We have a chapel and we have a confessional.
So I wanted to have something that kind of embodied
where I live and my community.
- She has a back story.
What about this gorgeous, see, this to me is very Rock M.
- I wish I got to show more of this--
- [Michelle] I didn't!
No, just kidding. (Rock M. laughs)
(Michelle and Rock M. laugh)
- So this is very much inspired
by Harajuku decora, just a lot of small,
intricate trinkets kind of mashed together.
I like to think of it as controlled fun chaos.
- Mm-hm. - In Japanese,
kawaii means cute, and kowai means scary.
- Mm-hm. - So I like to think
of it as scarily cute.
(Michelle laughs)
Like it's so cute, it's disgusting.
- [Michelle] Right.
- I did the concept for this one, and I wanted
to do something really different for the finale.
I knew that everyone was gonna be super sparkly--
- Of course.
- Rhinestoned out, and I wanted a way to kind of stand out.
- What about this beautiful kind of Cinderella
number behind me?
- [Rock M.] So this one over here is a--
- [Michelle] Really beautiful.
- [Rock M.] Thank you.
I was imagining a snow queen.
I don't normally wear super big gowns
or anything that's too big or cumbersome,
'cause most of my performances are super lip-syncy.
- Right. - Like, I'm gonna
flip off the stage onto a bachelorette party
(Michelle laughs) and kill half the people
in that group. - As long as they tip,
that's fine! (laughs) - That's right!
- [Michelle] "But don't touch my hair!"
- No!
The front panel here actually has a tearaway moment.
- Ooh! - So it's a full gown,
and the front panel tears away, it has a sequined--
- Bodysuit-type release,
uh-huh. - Bodysuit with rhinestones,
and the sleeves are actually designed
so they have pockets, so when I walk, they puff out snow.
- Oh, no way!
- Yeah, they puff out snow.
- Gorgeous!
- Yeah, I really went all out with a lot
of these concepts, because I didn't grow up
with a lot of money, and when I finally was able to,
'cause I had been saving up for this day--
- Through drag.
- Through drag. - Yes.
- Yeah, like, drag full time, I had been saving up
for this day, so when I got the call,
I was like, "I'm gonna let my imagination run free
"and do everything that I've always wanted to do."
- [Michelle] And you did it.
- [Rock M.] Thank you.
- [Michelle] And the things that you
didn't get to wear, the beauty is, you'll
now be performing everywhere--
- [Rock M.] Exactly!
- So you'll have all these gorgeous moments,
you'll have finale, you can do whatever
you wanna do, because the world is yours, Rock M.
You need to stop those voices in your head.
You are a beautiful person, you are a fun kid,
and I want you to live like you are.
Enjoy life.
You're young, you're a gorgeous soul, so enjoy it.
How do we wanna find you on social media?
- At @rockmsakura on Instagram, on Twitter.
I'm gonna have a YouTube page soon.
- Can't wait! - I'm gonna have
a lot of stuff.
Don't worry, guys, I'm gonna green-screen
myself into every episode I'm not in.
(Michelle laughs) Including the first one,
so don't you worry about that.
- Well, we will be excited to see that, sweetheart,
and thank you so much for joining me.
Can't wait to see you out there takin' over the world.
- Thank you, I promise I will,
and I'll rule with a mighty fist.
- Thanks, Rock M.
- Mm, thank you, mwah!
- Thank you guys for joining me
for another episode of "Whatcha Packin'."
I'll see ya next time.
Bye!
(Rock M. laughs)
Did you like that?
- Yeah!
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