(audience cheering)
- Don't start.
- I know.
- Don't start.
- I know.
- Don't.
- I didn't, I.
- Don't start.
(audience laughing)
(Brooke sighing)
- So I sat by myself and watched it
in it's full entirety
part one in part two last night.
- It's all of our story.
It's just played out differently.
But we're all daughters
and we're all people who
are just trying to get through life, you know?
- But I think that you and I
have taken such incredible accountability
for our lives.
We've never put the blame on people.
We act strong
and not broken or victim
like that is always been our narrative.
- I know.
And you know that
you can't teach somebody that,
you know, you really you can't teach that
you, we started so young
that we never had like anonymity and then fame.
We were babies, newer baby.
Like, it was like, so there's, you learn
you have different techniques and you learn it
and then you start being thankful
for so many of the good things that do happen.
And then you fight
you fight to make that who you are
rather than the
sitting there and feeling victimized or blaming or
it's such a waste of time.
Plus, we both had mothers
who we needed to navigate
and keep alive and take care of.
- Yes.
- And they were broken.
They were both scarred and broken.
And then when these babies come alive
and they're like, it's it changes their whole life
but it doesn't heal them.
You know?
- I love that you say our story is everybody's
'cause I always say that too.
It's small town, it's high school, it's all relative.
It's like you can make our sort of open book life
applicable to anyone.
I really believe that.
- That we all are living up to expectations
whether they're from our family, our father's, mothers
we are all
are aspiring to get approval from our
mommies and daddies.
Like, you either spend your life running away from,
running towards, trying to not be like,
trying to be like your mother.
And it's primal
and you gotta go through the process of it.
And it's just a lot of work.
- This is gonna seem like a very weird turn,
but like how did you feel
about the Me Too movement
in the sense of
I didn't feel like
I had a dog in that race.
I didn't feel like I could speak to it
because I experienced so many things
that were so inappropriate
at such a young age
that I'm so confused about.
What was I accountable for?
What did I put myself into?
Where was I?
Was I a part of things?
We were children.
How did that movement like affect you?
Did you feel like you could speak to it?
- No, because I didn't know
where I fell on the spectrum of it.
Like I don't know where to
interpret my experiences
because I was made to feel culpable.
And by the same time, you know
you victim shame yourself, you know?
And that's, but we were so young
and it was so appropriate.
- I know.
- That we just, you know,
I don't, I couldn't feel sorry.
I didn't even know.
I didn't know what it was.
I didn't know.
And so when it was called out to me as such,
I was like, nope, uh uh, no uh uh.
Nope. Not going there.
- Me too.
- It did not happen.
That did not happen.
- That's exactly how I felt.
I felt like I couldn't speak to the movement
and I was so happy that it was happening.
But I felt like I experienced
too many things that were so gray
and so awkward
and that I didn't know were wrong at the time,
I guess as an adult, with hindsight, yes.
As a mother of daughters.
- As a mother of daughters
I think that's what helps with the perspective of it.
- [Drew] Yes.
- But the ownership of it,
or the ownership of the reality of it,
that never was in my
I did not know how to handle any of that
so I just pushed it under the rug.
Like I didn't, it didn't, nope.
- I'm gonna lead to another weird pivot of confusion
but when I'm watching the documentary and Andre Agassi
is watching you do the friends moment,
and he goes home and he is so rageful
that he destroys everything that's meaningful to him.
Every award that he's won.
- His awards, he destroyed.
- Wimbledon, The Open,
everything, every important trophy
he destroys.
I never speak to the fact
that a huge part of why I'm single,
I don't wanna hear it anymore from men.
I don't wanna hear you.
- Yeah.
- How dare you be sexual at work?
How dare you.
That is so many of the relationships I've been in
and I've never heard someone talk about that.
You try to do your job during the day
and you go home at night
to a man who doesn't know how to deal with it
and I do nothing,
but then empathize with them
and try to make it okay for them.
- And then you're like, huh,
you're doing the show again.
You're starting, you're putting the,
you're winding up the battery in da da da da.
- Let me be smaller so you can feel bigger.
- But I mean, you know
that stuff starts from when we were little
like my mother commanded more attention.
Why was she in every interview with you.
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