I grew up thinking there was nothing of value in anything.
Nothing I could see inspired me.
All I knew is I wasn't going to do any ordinary kind of job.
So I tried doing nothing for a while.
It didn't work. I had to have money. (laughs)
It was when you started growing vegetables that you started feeling that there was some value in what you were doing.
Wasn't is? In Swaziland.
Yah. You started feeling idealistic. You started having a focus and an aim and an idealism towards something.
Because up until then nothing had been worth having an idealism about.
Yah.
So the dream was to have a biodynamic farm.
We had the same dream initially, yes.
The only difference is that you were thinking it was going to be a small farm and I was thinking it was going to be a big farm.
The actual farming activities I really love doing.
Handling cow manure, handling compost,
digging in the garden, driving the tractor with the moist soil coming up behind you, working with the animals.
I just love that as an activity and I love getting involved with it.
This place feeds one.
It's really the mountains which are a source of renewal here.
If I'm feeling depressed, I just have to look at the mountains. Something about them makes me feel better.
I feel that I have a relationship with the farm.
And I love the farm and I love being here. And I think the farm loves us too.
The farming is exceedingly difficult, on every front.
Somehow we've managed to keep going. We're in our seventeenth year.
The children feel that we are nuts to be here.
(laughs)
Everyone is working in their life, on what they have to work on at that stage.
There will always be materialism and there will always be that sort of thing,
and there will always be idealism and people working towards more idealistic goals.
And the light makes no sense without the dark.
It needs the dark to have strength.
Next lifetime I'm going to be a materialist.
(laughs)
That's it. Put your money in the hat and bugger off. (laughs)
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