HOUR" GETS UNDERWAY THIS TUESDAY NIGHT.
NIGHT. GOOD EVENING FROM OUR
HEADQUARTERS IN NEW YORK.
THE LATEST ROUND OF REPUBLICAN
IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS WRAP UP A
SHORT TIME AGO.
IT WAS A MARATHON DAY.
THE QUESTIONING WAS RELENTLESS
AGAIN TODAY.
AGAIN TODAY. IT WILL BE AGAIN TOMORROW.
FOUR WITNESSES TESTIFIED FOR
NEARLY TEN HOURS BEFORE THE
HOUSE INTEL COMMITTEE ABOUT WHAT
THEY KNEW ABOUT PRESIDENT
TRUMP’S REQUEST TO UKRAINE’S
PRESIDENT TO INVESTIGATE
DEMOCRATIC POLITICAL RIVALS.
THE DAY WAS DIVIDED INTO TWO
SESSIONS.
SESSIONS. THE FIRST SET OF WITNESSES SAW
JENNIFER WILLIAMS, A STATE
DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEE DETAIL TO
VICE PRESIDENT PENCE’S OFFICE ON
YOU’RE ASH
YOU’RE ASH EURASIA MATTERS.
EURASIA MATTERS. THE AFTERNOON SESSION HEARD FROM
TWO OFFICIALS THE REPUBLICAN
SIDE CALLED AS WITNESSES.
KURT VOLKER, THE FORMER U.S.
SPECIAL ENVOY FOR UKRAINE AND
THE PEACE TALKS THERE, AND TIM
MORRISON, A SENIOR OFFICIAL
OVERSEEING RUSSIA AND EUROPE
POLICY.
POLICY. MORRISON WAS ON THAT JULY 25th
CALL WITH UKRAINE’S PRESIDENT.
HE RESIGNED IN OCTOBER.
VOLKER PROVIDED ONE OF THE
HEARINGS BIG UNEXPECTED MOMENTS
WHEN HE AMENDED HIS CLOSED DOOR
TESTIMONY AND ACKNOWLEDGED
OTHERS HAD LAID OUT CONDITIONS
TO UKRAINE FOR RELEASING
MILITARY AID.
MILITARY AID. >> AT NO TIME WAS I AWARE OF OR
KNOWINGLY TOOK PART IN AN EFFORT
TO URGE UKRAINE TO INVESTIGATE
FORMER VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN.
I WAS NOT ON THE JULY 25th PHONE
CALL BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND
PRESIDENT ZELENSKY.
PRESIDENT ZELENSKY. I WAS KNOW MADE AWARE OF ANY
REFERENCE TO VICE PRESIDENT
BIDEN OR HIS SON BY PRESIDENT
TRUMP.
TRUMP. UNTIL THE TRANSCRIPT OF THAT
CALL WAS RELEASED, I DID NOT
KNOW THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP OR
OTHERS HAD RAISED VICE PRESIDENT
WITH UKRAINIANS, OR COULD NOT
FLATD THE POSSIBILITY OF
CORRUPTION.
CORRUPTION. IN HINDSIGHT I NOW UNDERSTAND
THAT OTHERS SAW THE IDEA OF
INVESTIGATING POSSIBLE
INVESTIGATING POSSIBLE CORRUPTION INVOLVING THE
UKRAINIAN COMPANY AS EQUIVALENT
TO INVESTIGATING FORMER VICE
PRESIDENT BIDEN.
PRESIDENT BIDEN. >> NOT LONG AFTER THAT MOMENT,
TIM MORRISON GAVE WHAT MAY BE
THE CLEAREST OUTLINE OF QUID PRO
QUO HEARD SO FAR.
IT CAME DURING THIS EXCHANGE
WHEN MORRISON WAS ASKED TO
RECALL A SEPTEMBER 1st
CONVERSATION BETWEEN U.S.
AMBASSADOR TO THE E.U., GORDON
SONDLAND, AND UKRAINE GOVERNMENT
OFFICIAL ANDREI YERMAK.
>> WHAT DID AMBASSADOR SONDLAND
TELL YOU THAT HE TOLD MR.
YERMAK?
YERMAK? >> THAT THE UKRAINIANS WOULD
HAVE TO HAVE THE PROSECUTOR
GENERAL MAKE A STATEMENT WITH
RESPECT TO THE INVESTIGATIONS AS
A CONDITION OF HAVING THE AID
LIFTED.
LIFTED. >> AS YOU MAY KNOW, THIS SCANDAL
HAS BEEN BRANDED MISSILES FOR
MISINFORMATION.
MISINFORMATION. THE PRESIDENT’S PERSONAL LAWYER
AND HIS INFLUENCE ON TRUMP’S
THINKING ON UKRAINE WAS ALSO
DISCUSSED.
DISCUSSED. HERE’S WHAT AMBASSADOR VOLKER
SAID TRUMP TOLD HIM.
>> HE SAID THAT UKRAINE WAS A
CORRUPT COUNTRY, FULL OF
TERRIBLE PEOPLE.
TERRIBLE PEOPLE. HE SAID THEY TRIED TO TAKE ME
DOWN.
DOWN. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAD A DEEPLY
ROOTED NEGATIVE VIEW ON UKRAINE
ROOTED IN THE PAST.
HE WAS RECEIVING OTHER
INFORMATION FROM OTHER SOURCES
INCLUDING MAYOR GIULIANI THAT
WAS MORE NEGATIVE, CAUSING HIM
TO RETAIN THIS NEGATIVE VIEW.
>> THE DAY BEGAN WITH TESTIMONY
FROM THOSE TWO OTHER WHITE HOUSE
OFFICIALS, JENNIFER WILLIAMS AND
NATIONAL SECURITY OFFICIAL U.S.
ARMY LIEUTENANT COLONEL VINDMAN.
BOTH OF WHOM LIBERTIED IN ON THE
JULY 25th TRUMP-UKRAINE CALL.
BOTH TESTIFIED ABOUT THEIR
CONCERNS.
CONCERNS. >> I FOUND THE PHONE CALL
UNUSUAL BECAUSE IN CONTRAST TO
OTHER PRESIDENTIAL CALLS I HAD
OBSERVED, IT INVOLVED DISCUSSION
OF WHAT APPEARED TO BE A
DOMESTIC POLITICAL MATTER.
>> IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE.
IT WAS IMPROPER FOR THE
PRESIDENT TO REQUEST, TO DEMAND
AN INVESTIGATION.
AN INVESTIGATION. >> THE REFERENCES TO SPECIFIC
INDIVIDUALS AND INVESTIGATIONS
SUCH AS FORMER VICE PRESIDENT
BIDEN AND HIS SON STRUCK ME AS
POLITICAL IN NATURE GIVEN THAT
THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT IS A
POLITICAL POSSIBLY OF THE
PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. >> THE WITNESSES WERE ALSO ASKED
ABOUT WHAT WAS AND WHAT WAS NOT
MENTIONED IN THAT WHITE HOUSE
SUMMARY OF THE PHONE CALL.
>> BOTH OF YOU RECALL PRESIDENT
ZELENSKY IN THAT CONVERSATION
RAISING THE ISSUE OR MENTIONING
BURISMA.
BURISMA. DO YOU NOT?
>> THAT’S CORRECT.
>> CORRECT.
>> CORRECT. >> AND YET THE WORD BURISMA
APPEARS, DOESN’T APPEAR IN THE
CALL RECORD.
CALL RECORD. >> CORRECT.
>> CORRECT. >> WE HAVE BE SEEN A TRANSCRIPT.
WHAT HAS BEEN RELEASED IS A
SUMMARY OF THE PHONE CALL.
HOUSE REPUBLICANS TRIED TO
REFOCUS THE MORNING SESSION BY
PRESSING VINDMAN ON HIS
CONVERSATIONS THAT FOLLOWED THE
CALL WITH A LINE OF QUESTIONING
THE COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN QUICKLY
SHUT DOWN.
SHUT DOWN. >> LIEUTENANT COLONEL VINDMAN,
DO YOU DESCRIBE THE JULY 25th
PHONE CALL WITH ANYONE OUTSIDE
THE WHITE HOUSE ON JULY 25th OR
THE 26th?
THE 26th? IF SO, WITH WHOM?
>> I SPOKE TO TWO INDIVIDUALS
WITH REGARD TO PROVIDING A SOME
SORT OF READ OUT OF THE CALL.
CLEARED U.S. GOVERNMENT
OFFICIALS WITH APPROPRIATE NEED
TO KNOW.
TO KNOW. >> WHAT AGENCIES WERE THESE
OFFICIALS WITH?
OFFICIALS WITH? >> DEPARTMENT OF STATE,
DEPARTMENT OF STATE, DEPUTY
ASSISTANT GEORGE KENT WHO IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PORTFOLIO,
EASTERN EUROPE INCLUDING
UKRAINE, AND AN INDIVIDUAL FROM
THE OFFICE OF, AN INDIVIDUAL IN
THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY.
>> WHAT AGENCY WAS THIS
INDIVIDUAL FROM?
INDIVIDUAL FROM? >> IF I COULD INTERJECT HERE, WE
DON’T WANT TO USE THESE
PROCEEDINGS --
PROCEEDINGS -- >> IT IS OUR TIME BUT WE NEED TO
PROTECT THE WHISTLEBLOWER.
PLEASE STOP.
PLEASE STOP. >> THAT EXCHANGE, THAT
INTERRUPTION WAS FOLLOWED BY A
RATHER TENSE CORRECTION.
>> MR. VINDMAN, YOU TESTIFIED IN
YOUR DEPOSITION THAT YOU DID NOT
KNOW THE WHISTLEBLOWER.
>> RANKING MEMBER EXLIEUTENANT
COLONEL VINLDMAN, PLEASE.
>> THERE WERE ALSO ATTEMPTS TO
CALL LIEUTENANT COLONEL
VINDMAN’S LOYALTY INTO QUESTION.
THE PURPLE HEART RECIPIENT CAME
TO THE U.S. AFTER A YOUNG BOY
AFTER HIS FAMILY FLED THE SOVIET
UNION.
UNION. DURING THE HEARING HE WAS ASKED
ABOUT REPEATED JOB OFFERS HE HAD
RECEIVED FROM THE DIRECTOR OF
UKRAINE’S NATIONAL SECURITY
COUNCIL.
COUNCIL. >> DID HE OFFERED YOU A POSITION
OF DEFENSE MINUTE STWER THE
UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT?
UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT? >> HE DID.
>> HOW MANY TIMES DID HE DO
THAT?
THAT? >> I BELIEVE IT WAS THREE TIMES.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY REASON WHY HE
ASKED YOU TO DO THAT?
>> I DON’T KNOW, BUT EVERY
SINGLE TIME I DISMISSED IT.
UPON RETURNING, I NOTIFIED MY
CHAIN OF COMMAND AND THE
APPROPRIATE COUNTER INTELLIGENCE
FOLKS ABOUT THE OFFER.
>> MULTIPLE RIGHT WING
CONSPIRACY THEORISTS INCLUDING
RUDOLPH GIULIANI HAVE ACCUSED
YOU OF HARBORING LOYALTY TOWARD
UKRAINE.
UKRAINE. THEY’VE ACCUSED OF YOU ESPIONAGE
AND DUAL LOYALTIES.
WE’VE SEEN THAT THIS MORNING.
THE THREE MINUTES ASKING YOU
ABOUT THE OFFER MADE TO MAKE YOU
THE MINISTER OF DEFENSE THAT MAY
HAVE COME CLOTHED IN A BROOKS
BROTHER SUIT BUT THAT WAS
DESIGNED EXCLUSIVELY TO GIVE THE
RIGHT WING MEDIA AN OPENING TO
QUESTION YOUR LOYALTIES.
>> WE SHOULD NOTE IN LIGHT OF
LIEUTENANT COLONEL VINDMAN NOW
BEING IN THE PUBLIC EYE AND
UNDER CRITICISM, THE U.S. ARMY
TELLS NBC NEWS, IT IS WORKING
WITH CIVILIAN AUTHORITIES TO
ENSURE THAT HE AND HIS FAMILY
ARE PROPERLY PROTECTED.
THAT COULD INCLUDE MOVING THEM
FROM THEIR HOME IF NEED BE.
AS HE WAS TESTIFYING, THE
PRESIDENT WAS HOLDING A CABINET
MEETING AND COMPLAINING ABOUT
THIS INQUIRY.
THIS INQUIRY. >> I JUST GOT TO WATCH AND THE
REPUBLICANS ARE ABSOLUTELY
KILLING IT.
KILLING IT. THEY ARE DOING SO WELL.
BECAUSE IT IS A SCAM.
A BIG SCAM.
>> ONE MORE THING HERE, THE
HOUSE DID ACT ON A PIECE OF
BUSINESS TODAY.
BUSINESS TODAY. LAWMAKERS PASSED A SHORT TERM
FUNDING BILL TODAY TO TRY TO
AVERT A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN AND
KEEP OUR GOVERNMENT OPEN UNTIL
DECEMBER 20th.
DECEMBER 20th. THAT WOULD BE FIVE DAYS BEFORE
CHRISTMAS.
CHRISTMAS. WHAT COULD GO WRONG?
THE BILL NOW MOVES ON TO THE
U.S. SENATE.
U.S. SENATE. BUT BACK TO OUR LEAD STORY.
LET’S BRING IN OUR GUESTS TO
START US OFF THIS TUESDAY NIGHT.
JEREMY BASH, FORMER CHIEF OF
STAFF AT THE CIA AND THE
PENTAGON, NOTABLY FORMER CHIEF
COUNSEL TOMORROW VERY COMMITTEE
WE’VE BEEN WATCHING, HOUSE
TENSION.
TENSION. THE WASHINGTON BUREAU CHIEF FOR
THE "NEW YORK TIMES" AND
JONATHAN, THE WHITE HOUSE
REPORTER FOR THE ASSOCIATED
PRESS.
PRESS. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ALL
OF YOU.
OF YOU. JEREMY BASH, I WOULD LIKE TO
BEGIN WITH YOU.
WHAT WAS IT WE WITNESSED TODAY?
WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED AFTER
TODAY?
TODAY? >> WELL, THE RECORD IS BUILDING.
HERE YOU HAVE FOUR TRUMP
APPOINTEES WHO BUCKED THE
OFFICIAL DIRECTIVE OF THE
ADMINISTRATION WHICH IS TO
STONEWALL CONGRESS AND THEY CAME
FORWARD AND THEY CONFIRMED THE
ESSENTIAL FACTS AS WE KNOW, THAT
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES DEMANDED THAT A FOREIGN
LEADER TRY TO HELP HIM RIG THE
2020 ELECTION.
2020 ELECTION. AND ALTHOUGH THE STATE OF THE
REPUBLICAN DEFENSE IS A LITTLE
BIT IN DISARRAY AS THEY GROPE
AROUND FOR WHAT THE RIGHT THEORY
OF THE CASE IS.
WHERE THEY’RE MOST GOING IS
WE’RE A YEAR OUT FROM AN
ELECTION SO LET’S LET THE VOTERS
DECIDE.
DECIDE. EXCEPT THE VERY HEART OF THE
CASE THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS
TRYING TO RIG THAT ELECTION AND
TRYING TO UNDERMINE NATIONAL
SECURITY IN SO DOING.
SO I THINK TODAY WAS THE DAY
THAT IT ADVANCED THE NARRATIVE
AND THE FACTUAL RECORD AND
TOMORROW, OF COURSE, WE’LL HEAR
FROM A VERY IMPORTANT WITNESS
WHO IS REALLY AT THE CENTER OF
THIS QUID PRO QUO, THE DEAL TO
REQUIRE THE INVESTIGATION IN
EXCHANGE FOR THE MILITARY AID.
>> AND QUICKLY, WHAT ABOUT THESE
ATTACKS?
ATTACKS? GLANCING AND DIRECT ON AN ACTIVE
DUTY U.S. ARMY LIEUTENANT
COLONEL GENERAL.
COLONEL GENERAL. >> IT WAS QUITE FRANKLY
DISGUSTING.
DISGUSTING. HERE IS A GUY WHO WAS WOUND IN
THE COMBAT, SERVED HIS COUNTRY
FOR 20 PLUS YEARS, ALL OF HIS
BROTHERS HAVE SERVED, HIS DAD
TOOK THE FAMILY OUT OF THE
SOVIET UNION SO THEY COULD BE
FREE.
FREE. SO THEY COULD SPEAK TRUTH TO
POWER.
POWER. SO THEY COULD SPEAK OPENBLY
TRUTH AND FACTS.
AND HERE WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE ON
THE DAIS AND SOME IN THE MEDIA
SAYING HE IS A SOVIET TRAITOR,
NOT REALLY IN THE ARMY.
I THINK ALL MILITARY FAMILIES
AND THE ENTIRE CHAIN OF COMMANDS
SHOULD STAND UP AND SAY WHO ARE
NOT YOU AGREE WITH HIM OR NOT,
GET OFF HIS BACK AND LET THE GUY
LIVE AND TESTIFY IN SAFETY.
>> ELIZABETH, AT THE ENDS OF
EACH DAY YOUR JOB IS TO DECIDE
THE PACKAGE OF COVERAGE YOUR
NEWSPAPER RUNS FROM YOUR BUREAU
IN WASHINGTON, NOTHING COULD BE
MORE IMPORTANT RIGHT ABOUT NOW.
HOW DID YOU BEGIN THAT TASK LATE
TODAY?
TODAY? HOW DO YOU POSSIBLY HEADLINE
WHAT WE WITNESS ALL DAY LONG?
>> I THINK THE MAIN NEWS TODAY
WAS THAT TWO WHITE HOUSE
OFFICIALS SAID IN OPEN TESTIMONY
THAT THEY FOUND THE CALL THAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAD WITH THE
PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE ON JULY
25th, AS INAPPROPRIATE AND
IMPROPER.
IMPROPER. WE HAD HEARD THAT BEFORE FROM
THEIR CLOSED DOOR TESTIMONY.
THIS WE HEARD IN PUBLIC.
SECONDLY, THE MOST IMPORTANT
STORY, IS THAT THE WHITE HOUSE
TURNED ON ITS OWN OF WE HAVE
SEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, PRESIDENT
TRUMP TURN ON HIS ATTORNEY
GENERAL, TURN ON THE FED CHAIR,
TURN ON PEOPLE WHO HAVE LEFT THE
WHITE HOUSE LIKE JOHN BOLTON.
WE HAVE NEVER SEEN THE PRESIDENT
TURN ON CURRENT WHITE HOUSE
OFFICIALS WHO ARE GOING TO GO TO
WORK IN THE WHITE HOUSE COMPLEX
TOMORROW MORNING.
TOMORROW MORNING. THAT WAS THE FIRST.
AND AGAIN, HE DID IT IN
REAL-TIME.
REAL-TIME. AND THIRDLY, I THINK WE SAW THAT
COLONEL VINDMAN WAS VERY, HE
WORE HIS UNIFORM.
IT EVOKED IMAGES OF OLIVER NORTH
FROM THREE DECK EIGHTS AGO AND
THE IRAN-CONTRA HEARINGS.
IT WAS A SYMBOL AND A BIT OF A
PROTECTOR FOR COLONEL VINLDSMAN
TO SHOW I’M AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.
I SERVE MY COUNTRY.
AND YET, HE WAS STILL OPEN TO
CRITICISM FROM THE REPUBLICANS.
>> WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN WHO USED
TO WEAR FOUR STARS ON HIS
UNIFORM WHO IS STANDING BY TO
TALK TO US ON THAT VERY TOPIC
LATER IN THIS BROADCAST.
JONATHAN, ABOUT THE REPUBLICANS,
DID THEY GET WHAT THEY WERE
LOOKING TO GET OUT OF TODAY, DO
YOU THINK?
YOU THINK? >> FOR THE MOST PART, I WOULD
SAY THE ANSWER IS NO.
VOGUER AND MORRISON WERE
REPUBLICAN WITNESSES.
REPUBLICAN WITNESSES. AND BOTH MADE DOWN WHAT THE
WHITE HOUSE AND TRUMP ALLIES
HAVE BEEN DEFENDING.
HE WAS A GOOD GUY, A PUBLIC
SERVANT, THAT HE HAD KNOWN HIM
FOR DECADES.
FOR DECADES. HE SAID, WE HEARD A LITTLE AT
THE TOP OF THE SHOW WHERE HE
OUTLINED THE FALSE INFORMATION
THE PRESIDENT HAD BEEN FED ON
UKRAINE.
UKRAINE. OTHERS BELIEVE SOME OF THAT
ORIGINATES FROM VLADIMIR PUTIN
WHO HAS VERY NEGATIVE OPINIONS
ABOUT UKRAINE AND THEN CLOSER TO
HOME, SOME OF THE CONSPIRACY
THEORISTS WHICH INCLUDES JUJU
AND HE REALLY TO KNOW SOME
SWIPES AT HIM.
EVERYONE WHO TESTIFIED TODAY,
THEY’RE UNANIMOUS IN THE IDEA
THAT NO ONE IN THE NATIONAL
SECURITY COMMUNITY THOUGHT THE
UNITED STATES SHOULD HAVE
WITHHELD THE AID FROM UKRAINE.
SORT OF ISOLATED THE PRESIDENT
AND HIS WISHES THERE, MAKING IT
CLEAR THIS WAS BEING DONE FOR
POLITICAL PURPOSES.
POLITICAL PURPOSES. IT WAS NOT TO ADVANCE THE
NATIONAL INTERESTS OF THAT PART
OF THE WORD.
THIS IS ALSO HIGHLIGHTED TWO
PEOPLE ON THE CALL ITSELF WHICH
IS AN IMPORTANT STEP, AS THE
DEMOCRATS BUILD THE NARRATIVE OF
THIS IMPEACHMENT.
THIS IMPEACHMENT. IN FACT, LIEUTENANT COLONEL
VINLDSMAN WHO WAS THE SUBJECT OF
MOST OF THE ATTACKS, THEY TRIED
TO SUGGEST THAT HIS LOYALTIES
ARE LAID ELSEWHERE.
HIS FAMILY TOOK HIM OUT OF THE
SOVIET UNION WHEN HE WAS A
CHILD.
CHILD. AND HE MENTIONED THAT AT THE TOP
OF HIS REMARKS TODAY.
THE ENDS OF HIS PREPARED OPENING
STATEMENT, HE SAID HIS FATHER
EXPRESSED SOME WORRY FOR HIM.
THIS IS THE KIND OF THING IF YOU
WERE IN RUSSIA AND YOU SPOKE
TRUTH TO POWER, YOU COULD BE IN
TROUBLE.
TROUBLE. YOU COULD BE KILLED.
AND PRETTY EMOTIONAL MOMENT
THAT, IN THE CAPITAL, DAD, WE’RE
IN AMERICA NOW.
I’M PARAPHRASING BUT DAD, WE’RE
IN AMERICA.
IN AMERICA. I’LL BE SAFE.
AT THE SAME TIME WE’RE LEARNING
THAT THE MILITARY IS HOOK TO
PERHAPS MOVE HIM AND HIS FAMILY
TO A SAFE LOCATION BECAUSE HE’S
NOT SAFE.
NOT SAFE. THAT’S HEART BREAKING FOR US
ALL.
ALL. >> I DON’T KNOW IF MR. SONDLAND
EVER MADE COMPETITIVE SPORTS, HE
MIGHT INDEED BE GETTING THE
HEISMAN LATE IN HIS CAREER.
THE DISTANCE STARTED TO BEGIN
TODAY IN THE HEARING.
IN YOUR VIEW, HE ALREADY HAD A
LOT OF EXPLAINING TO DO STARTING
TOMORROW MORNING.
TOMORROW MORNING. DID HIS JOB GET TOUGHER TODAY
IN.
IN. >> I THINK SO.
MULTIPLE WITNESSES HAVE COME
FORWARD AND SAY THEY HEARD HIM
SAY EXPLICITLY THAT UKRAINE
WOULD NOT GET THE AID UNLESS
THEY CONDUCTED THE
INVESTIGATIONS OF THE BIDENS.
THAT WAS THE TESTIMONY OF
COLONEL VINDMAN WHO SAID HE WAS
IN A MEETING IN THE WHITE HOUSE
DURING WHICH GORDON SONDLAND
SAID THAT.
SAID THAT. THAT’S WHAT CAUSED COLONEL
VINDMAN TO GO TO THE COUNSEL’S
OFFICE, TO GO TO THE LAWYER AND
SAY SOMETHING IS REALLY WRONG
HERE.
HERE. AND TIM MORRISON, A REPUBLICAN,
A REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL
STAFFER WHO WORKED IN THE TRUMP
WHITE HOUSE, HE ALSO SAID THAT
SONDLAND WAS TYING THOSE TWO
THINGS EXCLUSIVELY TOGETHER.
MAYBE HE WILL CLAIM TOMORROW
THAT HE WAS FREELANCING.
WE KNOW THE PRESIDENT DIRECTED
HIM TO DO IT THIS WAY.
AS EVERYBODY IN THAT FAMOUS
RESTAURANT IN UKRAINE HEARD.
>> I WANT TO PICK UP ON
SOMETHING NUMBERED YOUR LAST
ANSWER ABOUT THE PRESIDENT IN
SOCIAL MEDIA.
SOCIAL MEDIA. YES, WE HEARD FROM HIM IN FULL
IN THE CABINET ROOM.
BUT I ACTUALLY HEARD SOMEONE
TODAY EXPRESS PRIDE MIXED WITH
SURPRISE THAT HE DIDN’T LIVE
TWEET THE EVENT.
HOWEVER, YOU VIEW A TWEET THAT
AFFECTED THE THE WHITE HOUSE
STAFFER FROM THE WHITE HOUSE
TWITTER ACCOUNT AS AT LEAST
EQUAL TO THAT, CORRECT?
>> THIS IS THE OFFICIAL TAXPAYER
FUNDED WHITE HOUSE TWITTER
ACCOUNT GOING OUT TO, I DON’T
KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE.
THIS IS AGAIN ANOTHER FIRST IN
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
WE’VE NEVER SEEN SOMETHING LIKE
THIS BEFORE.
THIS BEFORE. I THINK HIS TESTIMONY WILL BE
VERY CRUCIAL.
VERY CRUCIAL. HE WILL HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHY HE
FORGOT THAT PHONE CALL WITH THE
PRESIDENT IN THAT KIEV
RESTAURANT LAST SUMMER.
IT IS UNUSUAL THAT SOMEBODY
WOULD FORGET A PHONE QUAL THE
PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. I DON’T CARE HOW MANY TIMES YOU
TALK TO THE PRESIDENT.
SO THIS WILL BE A PRETTY
DRAMATIC HEARING TOMORROW.
>> JONATHAN, WE HAVE SECONDS
LEFT.
LEFT. I WANTED TO HIT YOU ON THIS
FINAL TOPIC.
FINAL TOPIC. A GRACEFUL EXIT FROM WASHINGTON,
GO THEM TO KANSAS, RUN FOR
SENATE.
SENATE. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE CHANCES
ARE OF MR. POMPEO DOING THAT?
>> HE HAS DONE VERY LITTLE TO
TRY TO TAMP DOWN THE SPECULATION
THAT HE MIGHT WANT TO DO THIS.
THIS COMES AMID REPORTS OF SOME
REAL INCREASED TENSION BETWEEN
POMPEO AND PRESIDENT THE.
HE’S BEEN THE FAVORITE CABINET
MEMBER FOR THE MOST PART IN
REASON MONTHS BUT ACCORDING TO
SOME REPORTING, THE PRESIDENT IS
BLAMING HIM.
BLAMING HIM. THE STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS
HAVE COME UP AND TESTIFIED IN
THE IMPEACHMENT PROBE.
HE THINKS POMPEO SHOULD HAVE
EFFECTIVELY STOPPED THAT OR
HIRED DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
MOST OF THESE ARE POMPEO HIRES.
>> AT LEAST HE HASN’T DEFENDED
THEM.
THEM. >> YOU’RE RIGHT.
HE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY.
THE STATE DEPARTMENT HAS PUT OUT
A NOTE SAYING THERE IS NOTHING
TO THIS.
TO THIS. THE SECRETARY OF STATE STAYED ON
THE JOB.
THE JOB. I BELIEVE HE IS IN BRUSSELS
RIGHT NOW AHEAD OF SOME MEETINGS
TOMORROW BUT THIS STORY IS NOT
GOING AWAY ANY TIME SOON.
>> I RECKON WE’LL FIND OUT WHAT
THE PEOPLE OF KANSAS FEEL ABOUT
IT TOO LONG.