MY GUEST TONIGHT, UNITED STATES SNARKTS REPRESENTING THE GREAT
STATE OF KENTUCKY!
HIS NEW BOOK, MOVING BEYOND PARTISAN POLITICS TO UNITE
AMERICA.
THAT'S LIKELY
(LAUGHTER)
PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO THE PROGRAM, SENATOR RAND PAUL!
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
HAVE SOME WATER, I KNOW YOU MUST BE TIRED.
WHAT WAS THAT, 11 HOURS OF FILIBUSTERING.
YOU GOTTA BE EXHAUSTED.
CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION?
CAN YOU GO TO THE BATHROOM?
DO YOU GET 30 SECONDS, CAN YOU GO?
>> NO, YOU HAVE TO STAND THE WHOLE TIME.
YOU CANNOT SIT DOWN OR LEAVE THE FLOOR.
>> Jon: CAN YOU HAVE A SUBSTITUTE COME IN FOR JUST
A MINUTE?
>> NO.
NOW, THERE A STORY OF STROM THURMAN ONCE UPON A TIME GOING
TO THE CLOAK ROOM DOOR AND RELIEVING HIMSELF INTO A WASTE
BUCKET.
>> Jon: THERE ARE A LOT OF STORIES ABOUT STROM THURMAN.
THAT MIGHT BE THE NICEST ONE.
>> BUT THE THING IS THAT WAS BEFORE TV -- AND I DIDN'T WANT
TO IMPRESS THEM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE EOMITION THING.
>> Jon: YEAH, I GET THAT.
RESPECT.
THIS IDEA, BY THE WAY, YOU KNOW, YOUR PARTY IS KNOWN FOR WANTING
TO DEFEND THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA FROM GOVERNMENT OVERREACH,
TO PROTECT LIBERTY, I BELIEVE THEY CALL IT, THEY HAVE SIGNS --
(LAUGHTER)
-- "DON'T TREAD ON ME" FLAGS.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO GOVERNMENT SURVEILLANCE, WHEN IS COMES TO
THE SECURITY STATE, THEY SEEM VERY WILLING TO ALLOW THE
GOVERNMENT, WITH WHAT APPEARS TO BE VERY LITTLE OVERSIGHT, TO GET
WHATEVER THEY WANT.
>> YOU DIDN'T SEE THE OTHER SIGN THEY HAVE?
WE DON'T LIKE BIG GOVERNMENT UNTIL WE DO LIKE BIG GOVERNMENT.
>> Jon: RIGHT, BUT THAT'S MY POINT.
>> YEAH, THERE IS AN INCONSISTENCY THERE AND I THINK
THAT'S WHAT SEPARATES SOME OF US WHO ARE MORE FROM THE
LIBERTARIAN WING OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
WE DON'T LIKE BIG GOVERNMENT ANYWHERE.
>> Jon: NOW, IS THAT -- WHEN YOU TALKING LIKE THAT, IS THAT
WHY LINDSEY GRAHAM ROLLS HIS EYES, OR WERE YOU WEARING
WHITE BEFORE MEMORIAL DAY?
(LAUGHTER)
WHAT WAS IT THAT CAUSED HIM -- AND WAS IN UNCOMFORTABLE --
DID THEY TAUNT YOU ABOUT THAT?
DO THEY THINK, RAND, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
>> IT WAS MOSTLY, I THINK, PEOPLE ARE UNHAPPY ABOUT
DEBATING THE BILL OF RIGHTS WHEN THEY COULD HAVE BEEN ON
MEMORIAL WEEKEND, AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE THE OPPOSITE.
>> Jon: IN TERMS OF GOVERNEMTN SURVEILLANCE, LET'S
LOOK AT WHERE THE MAJORITY ARE AT --
THERE HAVE BEEN MORE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS, WOULDN'T YOU AGREE,
THAN TERRORISM IN AMERICA OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS.
>> IT'S VERY EMOTIONAL, THOUGH, I DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT
TERRORISM.
>> Jon: WE'RE NOT DISCOUNTING IT BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT
REALISTICALLY.
>> THAT'S THE THING, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE USING SCARE TACTICS
AGAINST ME.
THEY WANT ME TO BACK DOWN BECAUSE IF ANYTHING HAPPENS, IF
ANYONE DIES FOR ANY REASON IN THE WHOLE WORLD, I'M NOW
RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
14 PEOPLE DIED LAST NIGHT FROM MURDER IN BALTIMORE.
IS THE POLICE CHIEF RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT?
MAYBE THE PEOPLE WHO DO THE KILLING ARE RESPONSIBLE AND THE
REST OF US NEED TO PROTECT SECURITY BUT ALSO NEED TO
REALIZE WHAT WE'RE FIGHTING AGAINST.
IF WE'RE FIGHTING THIS WAR AGAINST TERRORISM WE'RE FIGHTING
TO DEFEND OUR FREEDOMS.
IF WE GIVE UP WHO WE ARE IN THE ROCESS, I'M WORRIED WILL THE
BATTLE HAVE BEEN WORTH IT.
THE PROBLEM NOW IS WE ARE IN A WAR THEY SAY IS PERPETUAL.
THEY SAY THE BATTLEGROUND IS EVERYWHERE AND IT WILL GO ON
FOREVER, THOUSANDS OF YEARS.
AND SO WHEN ARE WE GETTING OUR FREEDOMS BACK.
BUT I KNOW YOUNG MEN WHO HAVE LOST TWO LEGS, YOU KNOW, LOST
THREE LIMBS, AND I ASK THEM WHAT THEY FOUGHT FOR AND THEY SAID
THEY WERE FIGHTING FOR BILL OF RIGHTS, SO I THINK IT'S A
DISSERVICE TO THEIR MEMORY FOR ME TO SAY, OH, WELL, I'M GOING
TO JUST ROLL MY EYES AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS IS OUT THE WINDOW
BECAUSE I'M NOT WILLING TO STAY HERE ON THE WEEKEND AND FIGHT
FOR SOMETHING OUR FOUNDING FATHERS THOUGHT WAS
PRETTY IMPORTANT -- IMPORTANT TO PUT INTO THE FOURTH AMENDMENT.
>> Jon: I'M GLAD YOU DIDN'T FRAME THAT IN AN INFLAMMATORY
WAY.
(LAUGHTER)
I'M THE KIND OF GUY WHO DOESN'T MIND WORKING A WEEKEND IF IT
MEANS OUR SOLDIERS DIDN'T DIE IN VAIN.
(APPLAUSE) 96 00:04:02,042 --> 00:00:00,000 I GUESS LINDSEY GRAHAM'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF GUY.