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- Here's the OnePlus 8,
the OnePlus device for people who want this year's model,
but maybe aren't into some of the wackier ideas
that OnePlus is experimenting with its Pro models.
It starts at $699, which is $200 less than the Pro device
that Dieter's taking a look at in his review,
but all of the OnePlus essentials are still here.
It's still got a great screen.
It's still got great battery life.
It's fast charging, it's still fast,
and it's take on Android is still just as clean as ever.
And you're getting a screen with a 90 hertz refresh rate,
which is honestly, still so good
that I wish it was a standard-issue feature
for most modern flagships.
Now, if you think that sounds
like a fairly traditional OnePlus device,
then you're not wrong,
but the difference this year is that with the 8 Pro,
OnePlus has finally addressed some of those issues
that OnePlus fans have been asking about for years.
It's a device that really makes a serious attempt
to break the OnePlus mold.
The OnePlus 8 hasn't quite made that same attempt,
but it's still a good phone at a good price,
which really begs the question,
is a good OnePlus device
that doesn't break the mold worth it?
Or do you need to spend the extra money on the Pro?
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But the OnePlus 8 is a solidly-specced device.
It's powered by a Snapdragon 865,
starts with eight gigabytes of RAM
and 128 gigabytes of storage,
but I've been using a model with 12 gigabytes of RAM
and 256 gigabytes of storage.
There's 5G onboard, Wi-Fi 6, all that good stuff,
and that's a lot of spec for $699.
Especially compared to, oh, I don't know, the,
pretty much identically priced entry-level iPhone 11.
So essentially, you're getting most of the internal specs
of the OnePlus 8 Pro in the OnePlus 8.
The exception that OnePlus is keen to emphasize
is that the Pro is using LPDDR5 RAM,
while the 8 is using LPDDR4X,
but I struggled to notice the difference
in real-world usage.
I mean, the two phones even look
damn near identical from the front
because they both have that same hole-punch,
selfie cutout at the top left of the screen.
Yes, the 8 screen is ever so slightly smaller
at 6.55 inches, compared to the 6.78 inches on the Pro,
but the two phones are basically the same width,
so they don't really feel any different to hold.
I mean, seriously, when I was taking comparison photographs,
I occasionally forgot which one was which.
I will say that the 8 screen seems to curve
ever so slightly less around the sides of the device,
which is maybe why I didn't experience
the accidental touch issues that Dieter had with the Pro,
but honestly, it's really subtle,
and you have to really be looking for it
to actually notice it.
All of which is to say,
the OnePlus 8 is not a device to get
if you're after a smaller phone.
Personally, I'd love to see OnePlus experiment
with a smaller device,
but hey, maybe that's just me.
Of course, the screens aren't actually identical.
With the 8, you're getting a 1080p, 90 hertz display,
with a peak brightness of 1100 nits.
Meanwhile, the 8 Pro goes up to 1440p, 120 hertz,
and 1300 nits peak brightness.
But please, don't let this numbers-to-numbers
spec comparison lead you to believe
that the 8 has a bad screen.
It doesn't, it's great, it's bright, it's vibrant,
and it's yet more evidence that OnePlus really, really knows
how to put the right display on a phone.
Even compared to the 8 Pro,
the 8's display still feels smooth.
It took me sitting with both phones side-by-side
to spot the difference, and even then,
it wasn't a night and day comparison.
The phone feels nice and snappy to use.
Apps open quickly, games run well.
You're getting a flagship Android experience here.
Oh, and OxygenOS is just as out of the way as ever,
which is exactly what I want
out of a manufacturer's operating system.
I'm looking at you, LG.
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So I've been scurrying around the issue for a little while,
but what are the differences between the 8
and the 8 Pro that actually matter?
Well, to my mind, there are three main differences
that you need to worry about,
person who watches YouTube reviews of OnePlus phones.
Namely, IP ratings, wireless charging and cameras.
So let's just come out and say it.
The OnePlus 8 doesn't do wireless charging.
It doesn't do the fancy 30 watt wireless charging,
the OnePlus 8 Pro,
and it doesn't do the more basic five watt wireless charging
that basically every other flagship device
does at this point.
You already know if it's a feature you want or not,
so I'm not gonna labor the point too much
other than to say that it's still a bit of a bummer.
It also doesn't have an official IP rating,
which wouldn't be surprising coming from OnePlus,
apart from the fact, the company has finally relented
and actually added one to the 8 Pro.
And yeah, the company claims
that it'll still survive being used
in the rain and whatever, but come on.
And also, finally, the camera's different.
So let's dig in.
There's good news and there's bad news
contained within this triple-camera array,
which consists of a 48 megapixel main camera,
a 16 megapixel ultra-wide camera,
and a two megapixel macro camera.
The good news is there's no gimmick lens here.
The bad news is you don't get a zoom lens.
The macro lens is tricky,
and you also don't get a main sensor
that's quite as good as the 8 Pro.
It's still 48 megapixels, which yeah, is the same,
but long story short, it's an older sensor,
and it's just, well, see for yourself.
In bright conditions, I think it holds up well
against both the OnePlus 8 Pro and the Pixel 3
I happen to have for comparison's sake.
If you check out these shots I took
during my government sanctioned walk around the block,
I'll be well-pressed to tell a difference
between the 8 and the 8 Pro, and the Pixel 3's images
have a slightly softer look in comparison.
Look at this picture of a car and you'll see the hedge
behind it tints slightly yellower
on the 8 compared to the Pro, but look, it's minor.
It's after the sun goes down
that things start to go badly for the 8.
Things are just a lot brighter and clearer on the Pro.
Faces can look a little smooth, weird and brightened,
especially at night.
Oh, and here's some selfie shots,
and OnePlus uses the same 16 megapixel selfie sensor
between the 8 and the Pro,
so they're aren't many differences there,
but there definitely seems to be
some kind of skin brightening going on
compared to my Pixel 3,
especially considering it's managed
to correctly expose the sky behind me.
Obviously, you don't get a zoom lens with the 8,
but you do get a macro lens and,
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I don't really know how useful it is.
Look, I'm not gonna deny that under the right circumstances,
you can get a little bit more detail
with the 8 than the Pro.
I took these two shots from the same distance away
with both phones with their macros modes turned on
and let them do their thing,
and sure enough, you can see a little bit more detail
in the shot from the 8,
but other times, I straight up got a better macro shot
out of the 8 Pro, even though it doesn't have a macro lens,
like with this horse head on a Venetian mask,
which I just couldn't get the 8 to focus on
no matter how hard I tried.
Or if you're more of a video person,
then you can see for yourself what it looks like.
This is from the 16 megapixel front-facing camera.
So the easy answer is that
if you want the better camera setup,
you gotta go Pro, especially if you want a zoom lens
and better low-light performance.
But the much harder question to answer
is how well the modestly priced OnePlus 8
competes against similarly priced rivals.
And let's not forget,
these include the entry-level iPhone 11,
and honestly, I just don't think the 8 quite nails it.
I can't really complain about the battery life in OnePlus 8.
It's got a 4300 milliamp hour battery,
and I haven't even been able to come close
to running it down with a full day of use.
Although, you can't charge it wirelessly,
it supports Warp Charge 30T,
which can charge your phone in around an hour.
So this is a nice phone, but you already knew that.
It's a OnePlus phone, at this point,
there's just certain things you can kinda take for granted.
It's got a great screen,
it's wicked fast, it's solidly built.
It's camera can stand to be a little better,
and for reasons that seem to apply only to OnePlus,
it doesn't support wireless charging or have an IP rating.
So yeah, the OnePlus 8 doesn't really break the mold,
but I don't think that makes it a bad phone.
It just makes it a little predictable at this point,
but that makes for a hard choice.
Do you go for the predictable OnePlus phone,
or do you spend $200 more for a device
that definitely overcomes some
of these long-standing issues?
You'll have to watch Dieter's review of the OnePlus 8 Pro
for a complete look at that device's
strengths and weaknesses.
But a lot of the choice comes down to this,
is a $200 price premium worth it
for wireless charging and IP rating
and a slightly better camera?
Because if it's not, then the OnePlus 8 is a great phone.
All right guys, thank you so much for watching this review
in these super weird times,
and I truly hope you are staying as safe and well
as you can be at the moment.
And check out the super janky camera setup
that we've had to use
as Alix has directed me remotely (laughs) from zoom.
Anyway, thank you so much guys, and check out theverge.com
for the full review of the OnePlus 8
and OnePlus 8 Pro, see ya.