Chris the BMW mate oh yeah m8 if you
prefer the most powerful em car ever 616
horsepower does it do it for you no
because I've always felt that an m6 run
m8 and an m5 basically being the same
car yeah I'd always go for the stealthy
saloon car I got to the point in going
for the cope because it really is just a
you know it's the same platform you have
less space sometimes it looks a bit
better but I'm not sure it does with
this one because it's very very sloping
rear screen it's in place you seem to
have a problem look like it doesn't look
as good in the Roar as it does for me in
here in pictures fair enough that's
subjective look they're great cars yeah
BMW I've got this platform sorted it's
got massive power you've got this
switchable to four-wheel drive so it can
be a slightly monster if you want or an
all where the traction mantra we want it
to be but let's face it BMW struggle at
this price point they always have done
being 165 grand for this car assessed in
you and I just think you're you're up
against some really serious Ginter
mid-engine supercar territory which
admittedly aren't as useful or as
rounded as this but Bentleys and Astin's
and all sorts yeah yeah bad just doesn't
work at that price at is interesting you
came in straight on the styling there
because I got some thoughts on this were
we spoiled by the original 8 Series the
fact that that had so much you know
drama original looking thing and this
just yeah and I'm not the PMM car should
be recognizable from about half a mile
to a sad oh like us yeah through the way
that it's it's it's camber a slightly
wider stance there should be something
about it on the road not enough hearts
and these these current M cars there's
particularly the five and this the eight
don't have that and I think they really
miss it I don't care about the carbon
roof that means nothing to me I mean I
think weighs as much as a small planet
anyway who cares about having a carbon
roof the other thing I find baffling is
this is already the competition version
so that gets launched about four half
hours after the real the motor we go
from here there's only one petition
competition to me means they just shag
the ride and they put some awful looking
wheels on it
these composition complicated wheels
yeah yeah I've not got a massive downer
on it I just think it should be a
hundred it was a hundred thousand pound
car I could make an argument for it at
165 grand no I like it this is Chris
Harris who doesn't have a massive downer
on this car matter if you did BMW
styling
all right this car is a good case in
point but they having a bleats of a
shocker at the moment on the ups and
downs how can a company be producing
cars like the x7 like the facelifted 7
Series grills the size of Surrey and you
seen the new 4 Series Coupe a 4 Series
Coupe is all over the place but then you
see a 3 Series Touring on the road and
you think that's the BMW are these
coming out of the same design Department
what's good no they are I think they're
but I think they are looking at their
their outgoing model ranges and they
must be worrying because the m2 is a
great looking car I think the the
outgoing m3 is one of the best looking
end cars ever because it's got that wide
arch look and the camber and the toes
are all just set so it makes it look
really aggressive you mentioned earlier
just quickly the this is another 600
horsepower saloon like the m5 like the
e63 that you can do the switchable thing
so you can disconnect front drive shafts
and have a real drop but you have to
have everything off yeah so you can only
ever able drive if you want to you know
be completely free sort of agree with
that as long as as long as as long as
they tell you when you buy it how that
works then I agree with it and if they
don't I don't the reason for that is you
can't have people out on the street in
this thing in the wet 616 horsepower
until wheel drive with the traction yeah
if you can't have that yeah so I think
it's a bit like fitting a spike to the
steering wheel maybe do that people will
slow down without for the avoidance of
doubt this in the wet two-wheel drive
too much for me the logic does work
because if you had two wheel drive and
you could have all the systems on what's
the point
because they're up there they're
stopping you using the slide ability
anyway yeah so it does make sense but
how many people are gonna buy this and
go to a track and smoke the tires
bringing it back to a positive space I'm
going to ask you to name your favourite
ever M car but rather than just you're
going to give us some obscure
a plastic one that no one knows about it
has to be an M car from the last 10
years what's your favorite one M at the
moment my one M has done 60,000 miles I
love it and it's curious that because
when it came out it was lambasted for
not being a proper M car because it had
a pretty basic m135i engine in it and it
wasn't it wasn't that special but now it
just fits with the way that I live and
I'm every time I buy another car the one
M goes to the back of the shed yeah and
long about a month later that car gets
sold and I get back in the 1 M it's
small its compact they look amazing on
the road when you see them because their
gestation it's basically just a pair of
shoulders driving down the road aren't
they they're they're butch the control
weights a heavy the gearshift feels like
a B&W gauge who's got that same old
teardrop shaped gear leaver which I love
so for me that is the one I never
thought I'd say that I think the current
m3 I think that Eve whatever it is the
f80 m3 yeah it's a great car the spiky
though it seems to go down well with
sort of driving enthusiasts yeah but if
you take a general public find it a bit
much if you take it not the like in your
daughters if you take it to someone
that's good at mapping them you can have
them read maps and they you can make the
pad than every less spiky and that
transforms it also if you fit that
remarkable Mitchell in pilot 4s to it
you it just transforms the car but it's
launched on a super sport but the new
tire makes it much more drivable so
those are the ones and of course the
all-time great is the e 20mm 596 that's
the car probably but the fact that I won
over into my criteria but had to get
that one ended