he has been labeled as a genius a
prophet a vision and sometimes as an
eccentric and dismiss as an utopian
dreamer but in the end no matter what
they say he's jack fresco the creator
and the mind behind the Venus Project a
monumental work of several fields of
knowledge that unify the concept of a
new future for the human civilization
frescoes entire life is perhaps the
definition of a second chance a new
opportunity for social progress in
harmony with our planet and technology
mr. fresco thank you for being with us
today thanks for the privilege can you
give us a brief description of what is
to be in this project a Venus Project is
an attempt to bring world peace and all
the nations together if you don't want
war killing crop most crimes you have to
redesign the way society works you have
to declare all the earth's resources as
the common heritage of all the world's
people then we have to remove the money
system which is basically corrupt after
that we have to gradually outgrow the
need for all the artificial boundaries
that separate people so we have one
world working cooperatively toward
preserving the environment and all life
as we know it and what is the most
single important aspect of this project
a resource-based economy to declare all
the resources the common heritage of all
the world's people can you explain the
distinction between a money-based
economy and a resource-based economy Oh
a money-based economy produces incentive
but it also produces incentive for
corruption payoffs paying off senators
various corporations buying centers it's
never been a democracy we've never had a
democracy no nations ever had it if you
don't have equal purchasing power you
can't have a democracy how does the
Venus Project compared with communism
communism uses money
it has social stratification it has
banks it has armies and navies prisons
and police we don't have any of those
now let's talk about society in many of
your lectures you imply that we are
conditioned to think in a certain way is
that correct well if you are raised by
the headhunters of the Amazon as a baby
if you never saw anything else you'd be
headed if you were raised in Nazi
Germany we'll all you see is high Hitler
guides wrangle over others you'd be a
German so I think all people are
perfectly well-adjusted where they're
coming from there's no the thing a good
or bad people you're taught to hate
certain people but where they're coming
from its normal if you're brought up in
the south uneducated region you might
become a member the Ku Klux Klan you
speak with a southern accent where do
you get that from the environment where
do you get our mu give your now go
and kick his ass you get that from the
environment it's not that people are
good or bad they're raised in an
aberrated or twisted environment do you
feel that we live in the world of damage
communications that sometimes restrict
the language and expression of emotions
as well as thinking is that correct yes
today our language is hundreds of years
old that makes it extremely difficult to
talk to one another we talk at each
other that means sometimes persons they
have a nice weekend why don't they say
have a nice life why just the weekend
because our language is so old it's
automatic and has no meaning there has
to be a language that's not subject to
interpretation when you read the Bible
you say Jesus meant is he says no it
meant that another for he meant this so
he have the Lutheran the seventh-day
adventist because it's subject to
interpretation a language is not subject
to interpretation mathematics
engineering chemistry physics structural
engineering not subject to
interpretation you couldn't build a
bridge if one engine uses I think he
meant this the other says no he meant
that so it's possible to develop a
language
it not subject to interpretation and how
do you feel about the term democracy
democracy is a con game it's a word
invented to placate people to make them
accept a given institution all
institutions sing we are free the minute
you hear freedom and democracy watch out
because in a truly free nation no one
has to tell you you're free I heard that
you say that as powerful system started
collapsed they tend to defend themselves
with fascism in order to defend the
static or is that the situation that we
live right now well this system right
now is moving toward fascism cutting
back on the freedoms what little
freedoms we had we never had complete
freedom because the word freedom has no
meaning when an Arab comes to this
country with ten wives they say can only
come in with one so don't use the word
freedom say there's a certain range of
behavior we permit in this society and
this is what it is don't use the word
freedom how do you feel about the recent
economic crisis in the United States and
the global recession is that a lesson to
be learned no because it takes a
recession loss of job and loss of
respect for your elected leaders when
that happens you get social change
social change cannot come about due to
intellect it comes about by people
suffering and the more people that are
laid off the more they lose respect for
an existing government they will seek
another direction if they're too many
people seek a new direction then the
existing government calls upon the
military and police to manage society
that's called fascism now let's talk
about war in technology in 1961
President Eisenhower advises against the
military complex is this a prophecy to
be taking care right now at this point
of time well I would say that he didn't
push it enough he should have explained
it from many points of view just saying
beware of the industrial military
complex there's not enough because
people don't know what that means
exactly yes but we have seen the images
of the Twin Towers being collapsed to
the ground on 911 we also have seen the
bombs going into the ground of this
Middle East countries like Afghanistan
in Iraq how do you feel about this and
what's your perception of the future in
the war each system owns perpetuate
itself we don't go to another country to
bring democracy we go there for their
resources oil metals cheap labor we
don't go to bring democracy we took this
land from the Indians we stole it after
we took the land we took New Mexico from
Mexico don't we took California from
Spain after we stole all the land we
need would put up the sign thou shalt
not steal all nations are corrupt all of
them now One Nation is knows enough
about ecology to handle the problems all
politicians are basically ignorant men
all of them all the way back in history
our problems are not political they were
good a hundred years ago Paolo but today
their technical safe transportation
production of it abundance making things
available people without the use of
money as long as money exists you're
going to have corruption no matter how
many treaties you sign no matter how
many laws you make ninety percent of
man-made laws are irrelevant it isn't
laws that we need people need access to
the necessities of life when that's
arranged they don't steal some people
say that always always come back
ambition violence hatred what do you
think about that there's no such thing
as human nature otherwise we'd still be
living in caves if human nature couldn't
be changed it's learned when your mother
says you're a Lutheran you don't play
with that little Catholic boy so the
parents indoctrinate their children in
the future parents will be educated in
how to raise children you have to raise
children because children can learn
anything at all they can run geology
physics chemistry but we give them
garbage
we have Mickey Mouse clubs in America
how shameful we have children and we
read to them Dicky dare and his sheep on
the way he met a cow MooMoo said the cow
that's no way to raise children do you
know they won't listen to you so why
persist on these ideals because they're
brought up not to in other words abrupt
what's the greatest country well the USA
what's uh what's the most inventive
country in the world USA but they don't
tell us where the printing press came
from that all the foreigners that came
to this country brought with them
language religion ideas technology so we
owe so much for example you don't notice
an arab named algebra gave us algebra
the great museum in egypt years ago and
a library of world knowledge so we owe
so much to so many nations the
separation of nations is dangerous wrong
and the failure of nations to work
together that's what war is more is a
supreme failure of bridging the
difference between nations Toby no
military in the future there'll be
people who learn see soldiers are
killing machines you teach them to kill
and the other nation teaches its
soldiers to kill what i would do is
teach soldiers send them back to school
free of charge to learn to become
problem solvers how do you bridge the
difference between Saudi Arabia and this
country how do you bridge the difference
between Venezuela in another country
that's what's needed science applied to
government so far we have opinions from
from politicians that know nothing about
ecology safety engineering increasing
the agricultural yield they are totally
incapable and the future will look back
to children fear say couldn't you see
that the money system had people paid
off couldn't you see what it is obvious
to you you said well no we were brought
up and we didn't know the difference
kids will not understand that in the
future mr. fresco want to thank you for
your time
our viewers enjoyed our conversation as
much as I did thank you thank you for
the privilege