- What we are saying is if all you eat for your whole life
ever is just meat, that's not good.
I don't have to be a doctor,
I'm just blown away right now.
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- Doctor Saladino, when you're recommending this diet,
what risks do you discuss with your patients?
- I don't think there are any risks to eating animal
foods exclusively, there are no risks in terms
of kidney function, there are many studies that show
that high protein diets do affect kidney function.
There are no studies interventionally that show
that eating meat is going to increase the risk
of any single cancer.
There are no risks to eating the foods that we have been
eating as humans for our entire existence.
- I don't know what research you're reading,
but there are literally thousands of studies
showing the benefits of Polyphenols,
let's start with those for example.
Plant-based nutrients in the diet.
- As an attorney, I would ask you,
you're a medical doctor, is that correct?
- [Paul] Absolutely.
And you are a psychiatrist, is that correct?
- Right, a residency in psychiatry.
- So what do you know about nutrition?
Where did you gain your background in nutrition?
- Listen, this is--
- No you listen to me and answer my question,
now I'm asking you to tell us where
your background emanates from.
- I went to medical school and I studied
nutrition in medical school,
and I study nutrition independently.
One of the crazy things about medical school,
is that it teaches you how to read articles.
I'm a doctor, I know how to read articles.
I know how to read literature.
- So have you done any independent testing,
have you written any articles that was suggested
by the physicians who have been here today?
- What does writing articles have to do with
my knowledge--
- Well because I could become you.
I could be you as an expert, because I read
all of the data and all of the articles on this subject,
now I'm an expert?
That doesn't make me an expert.
- This is not the scientific method,
and as Doctor Saladino will contribute
to the medical literature and help us understand
how this happens, but that's the scientific literature,
that's not TV and blogs.
I say no to Carnivore.
- I'm a board certified physician, nutrition specialist.
I have been practicing nutrition exclusively,
I'm trained as an internist,
I was originally board certified in internal medicine,
I have spent 20 years.
You've been dallying in this for a few years,
reading articles, I've been doing it,
working with patients, my oath is first do no harm.
- Meat and animal foods are the most nutrient-rich
foods on the planet that humans have been eating
throughout our evolution.
- I wonder what Doctor Saladino,
a colleague of mine and a psychiatrist who's doing
research on, this morning
in the National Library of Medicine Pubmed,
is all the research studies that are randomized
on the Carnivore Diet.
There is not one.
I want to share with you, when his colleague
Dr. Shawn Baker, an orthopedic surgeon ate one year
on the Carnivore Diet, his hemoglobin A1C
was 6.3, that's prediabetic.
His testosterone was under 250.
It took a long time to get him to publish his data,
and he's never republished it,
I don't know if Doctor Saladino publishes
his personal labs, he's never published an article
in the National Library of Medicine on this diet.
I can find randomized studies on leaches for back pain,
and cupping for back pain.
We don't have a case report.
- [Mary] The bottom line is you practice psychiatry,
am I correct?
- I practice medicine.
- You practice psychiatry, is that correct?
So what makes you an expert in this?
- Because, an expert in what?
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An expert in understanding human physiology?
This is medicine, the separation of humans
into organ systems doesn't serve the patient.
To say that because I'm a psychiatrist,
I don't know about nutrition, is a--
- [Mary] I didn't say that.
- That's what you were inferring.
Well where does the inflammation come from
that cause depression and anxiety?
It comes from the body, it doesn't come from the brain.
- It's a scary thought process,
that is all you need to do is read articles
to make you an expert.
I wanna know what kind of testing you've done,
what kind of data you have,
what you yourself have found regarding these issues,
other than what reliances on other people.
- I'm not sure I understand your question,
because that's how anyone gains knowledge.
- [Mary] You don't want to listen to my question,
because you know I'm right.
- The National Institutes of Health just gave
the Cleveland Clinic $12 million of our taxpayer money
to study the affect of meat on TMAO and the microbiome,
because there are 1000 studies that are indicating,
I am a world expert on TMAO, Doctor Sal,
don't take me on this, you will not be happy,
I will not be kind.
Wait 10, 20 years before you play with this dangerous diet.
- What we are saying is, if all you eat for your whole life
ever is just meat, that's not good.
I don't have to be a doctor, I'm just,
I'm blown away right now.
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