- Why was she in every interview with you?
Because that's one thing my mom did not do that,
that's one thing I didn't ever see.
I mean, why, did she ever explain to you
why she would sit next to you in interviews?
- [Brooke] No.
- [Drew] It was just the way it should be?
- It was, no one's gonna get you.
I'm gonna be there.
I'm there first, you're mine.
I'm not gonna give you to somebody.
- And I'll protect you?
I'll answer questions. - Under the guise
of protection.
But it was more ownership and fear.
I think.
- She was the original momager, if you will.
And my mom became a manager in honor of Teri Shields
because she was known in the industry
as the great protector of you.
The one who called the shots.
And yet I paid the rent.
You paid the rent.
How do you feel about that
then and now? - You know, it was all I knew.
You know what I mean?
But we got stuff.
It's like I did a movie and we got a car.
- We got a car too.
And my mom couldn't afford one otherwise.
- No.
All I knew was keep my mother alive,
keep dancing and get stuff.
But to emerge from it, not angry or jaded.
- No.
- Is in there.
It's something in your character.
It's in my character.
Doing this documentary has
it's given me a life in the most interesting way.
- What do we say to young girls who are out there
on Instagram, on social media doing the same things we did,
so we're not judging it.
I'm not judging it.
I did it too, I get it.
But now knowing what we know.
- They're not gonna listen.
- Yes, I know!
I wouldn't have listened either.
- So, you know, Ali's a really good one for this.
Like, she's got a really great perspective on it.
- Ali Wentworth, who's her best friend
and the producer of this,
who we're gonna invite out in a minute.
(audience applauding) - She can talk to this,
but you know they're gonna have to process it on their own
because they think they're in control.
But then the flip side is they'll say, "Oh,
I can't be alone with that boy in the, you know,
whatever room because he's gonna then expect something."
- Yeah. - And you're just like,
"Okay, you don't get to be that woke
and then still say this."
So you're gonna have to try to balance it
but you just keep talking, keep talking to them.
And our experience is completely unrelatable.
- I mean, the documentary is so incredibly well crafted
with your life's journey in photos and film
and behind the scenes
that it is literally like you are there with you.
- And you don't have to like me to watch it.
Like, (chuckles) do you know what I mean?
Like, it's not like a fan, it's not like a retrospective
and like you have to be a fan and then you care,
like, it's about a bigger story
and it's about a female story and a female journey
and finding your voice, finding your agency whenever it is.
- I don't think there's actually been a better time for it
because now girls are in the position we were in growing up
that was so rare and unique
and they are putting themselves, have access to,
and portals to the same thing we went through as kids.
And I think it's gonna be a tipping point in the culture
of how we all discuss the new normal
with our kids growing up in front of everybody,
just the way we did.
And I have to ask you, like,
now that the documentary is out,
has any of like the male directors like, reached out to you?
Louis Malle and Franco Zeffirelli.
- Dead. - They're both dead.
You know, the director of "The Blue Lagoon" is still alive.
- He did send me a, I saw his name on my phone
and I was like, "Oh, oh, what do I do?"
And I let it go to voicemail because I was like, oh,
I wanna see what the tone is.
And he wants to chat.
I don't know about what,
I don't feel like bringing any of it up back up again.
And like, it's not about that, you know,
but it was about, you know,
these males needing me
to be in a certain category to serve their story.
And it never was about me.
It was never protective of me.
It was fun and loving at times
but I was just there.
I was a pawn.
But these men, like Keith Carradine
took such good care of me.
He looked at me and he said, "You know,
this doesn't count as a first kiss."
- Right.
- That was gracious and protective and caring on a level
that I don't even think I knew at the time.
I'd never kissed a boy before.
- How in the hell did this ever got gotten away with?
By the way, did like, I was so confused about sexuality
'cause then my mom like went and dated my boyfriends.
Did you ever have that weird situation with your mom?
- No, 'cause she was in love with me.
I was her main focus
and both of us were gonna be cut off from our sexuality.
I was gonna stay a virgin.
She was going to be just Teri Terrific and being there.
So it's like, there were, I mean, well, yeah,
that's another conversation. (chuckles)
- No, and I think my mom might have been so enamored with me
that she actually wanted to be with the people I was with.
- I don't get it, but I get it.
It's just, it's so layered and it's so needy
and it's so sad and broken.
- We're sitting here laughing about the fact
that our moms were so in love with us,
that they behaved so absolutely inappropriately
and we have our sense of humor intact.
And I love us for that.
I do, I love us
for that so much. - I mean, they're our moms.
(audience clapping) - And they're our moms.
And they gave us life.
And if my mom hadn't schlep me to every audition
and become my manager,
I might not be sitting here right now.
And there's nowhere on earth I'd rather be.
- But you know what you think anybody
would be doing a documentary
if I didn't have the trajectory I did?
- I don't know, but let's ask your best friend,
Ali Wentworth who lived a totally different life growing up.
So she has another perspective
and she helped make this film and it is so powerful.
Let's talk to Ali.
We're gonna bring her out. (Brooke clapping)
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