They're gonna kill you Al, run...
How did the Mongols come about ? I was um, the Grand Jury had just indicted me, and
they were looking for me again. I had got out on bail, they were looking for me, and so a friend of
mine at that time had a store and he says, "Man look, I sell water beds in the back room you could live
there." So yeah, so I used to do, I used to make leather goods for them, and would sell purses,
you know headbands, wallets, all that, and posters, you know, one of those. And these guys
were getting together, they were going to join a club so one day they asked me, "Why don't
you come with us, Al, meet these guys? Because I was in pretty good shape. So I say, "Yeah, let's
go, man. I didn't want to go, because they were looking for me. But I went, and we went there.
This guy made a racist remark, and I told my friend, you know what man, we ain't gonna
join it. And they went and sent for this big ol' guy. I beat this guy before he got off his bike.
He didn't have a chance. And then after he went in, these guys said, "Oh we're you know, we're gonna give
you our patch so you guys... We said, "We don't want it; we're going to start our own club. And that's what we did, and
you know the reason they got the name Mongols, it's because
they had conquered the known parts of the world at one time. So, black and white
is because of the sheriff's cars, black and white. And we used to fight with them all the time.
That's how we started in '69. I had just come home. I was nuts. I didn't know I didn't ...the sad part is,
I didn't know I was nuts, but everybody else did. How do you mean, in what way? In what way was I nuts?
I would do things. If you'd say hey, man, let's
rob that guy, I'd rob him. Let's beat him up, I'd beat him. Let's stab him, I'd stab him.
We're gonna do this over here. Let's do it. When in East LA, when
we were marching the first time down Whittier Boulevard,
and we went to the park, they have a park there, Laguna Park. All the police were there, and I
was carrying a sign with a 2x4 .I took that sign off, and started fighting the police with a 2x4.
A cop that was a highway patrol that knew me, came, parked his bike right
there, came when I was fighting... He goes, man they're gonna kill you, Al. Run.
So, I got to the other side. I got away.
I mean, I didn't know. I didn't know. It was because I made that pact with the devil
that I didn't feel things like a normal person. And then using heroin, you really don't feel nothing.
You know it's just something, something
inside of you that you can't control. Once you take one step to do it, there's no turning back,
there's no turning back. So you told me you once whipped a guy with a chain. I
took half of his face off, in a bar. We were in one bar, we went to another bar, and we started
fighting. He was a bartender. Before he could get the bat or the gun; whatever he was going to get...
I used to wear a chain around my waist, a primary chain. It's a motorcycle chain. And it had a big
buckle, and I just got it and started hitting him in the face. What do you feel now when you think
about those stories? I don't feel anything... you know, what I feel, to be honest, is grateful,
that God has forgiven me. Because those people, they're never gonna forgive me. All those people
we hurt, they're never gonna forgive me. But I know one thing, God has forgiven me.
Yesterday, I did about 15 baptisms. What a difference to what I was,
what God has made me; what a difference. I had made an agreement with the devil a long time ago,
until Jesus Christ broke that curse. I was in a group. We were doing, uh...
We're going out to people that were possessed. We'd go pray for them, you'd see the spirits leave them.
And so the lady told me we want you to be with us, Al, you know God has called you. I said yeah, okay.
I was already in the church, and she prayed for me and this thing left me,
it screamed and left ,and she said "We break that curse
that, that pact you made with the devil. I never told no one, and she knew. But that
was later? Way after, way... when I was already trying to... God had forgiven me all my nonsense.
You know, I, I've traveled all over the United States.
I used to go into all the prisons. I've been to Death Row in Texas. I've been to India...
not because I'm cute, not because I'm smart, because nobody's ever said I was smart.
But because of my Lord and Master, Jesus Christ has given me a platform of forgiveness,
and that's what it is, you gotta forgive. But a lot of people ain't gonna forgive you.
They'll say that guy hurt this, or he did... I remember one time this guy owned money,
and we went in this house in Vegas. And I had two guys with me. And I was talking to him
kind of like in his bedroom. Door was open, and you could see the two guys sitting on the couch. And he
had this jewelry box full of gold and diamonds. And he owed a lot of money. And I looked and he had it
open, and he reached over and closed it and pulled it towards him. And I started laughing. I said do
you think i came for that [ __ ]. I said, "Brother, you're going to pay, now or when you come back."
And he said, "Come back, where am I going? "To the hospital, because those guys are going to help
me, we're going to beat you because you owe money. And he called up his sister... the money he owed, he went
and bought himself a new Mercedes. His sister brought it, I told my friend take it.
And I stayed there till this guy. I stayed there 'til he left, and I told him. "If you call
the cops, you might get me, you might get the guy driving, but we'll be back, we'll be back.
You know, people don't realize what's really going on in the world.