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use promo code ROGUE, that's R-O-G-U-E at checkout,
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>>> BOTH: Yes, clothe your naked flesh.
>> Do it.
>> You're going to Mack Weldon,
you're going to get wonderful clothing.
>> JASON: [whispering] Give in. >> Breathable clothing.
>> Nudity is wrong.
>> BRIAN: [laughing] Nudity is wrong!
>> For some people.
[laughter]
>> I don't even want to burn-- I'm done burning plastic forks
for amusement. For fear of any
of that landing on me.
>> I'm imagining you standing out on your front porch
just like, smiling at neighbors, "How y'all doing?"
"Just burning forks."
>> "I'm just trying to earn a reputation as that guy."
[laughter]
"How you doing?"
>> JASON: "Hey man!" >> BRIAN: But that's over.
>> JASON: "Hey Bill!" >> BRIAN: Those days are gone.
>> "You ever done time?"
"Eh, just asking."
♪ [smooth melody with sharp percussion]
>> ROBOT VOICE: Trash bags as weapons.
>> Jason, I'm concerned about the friends you keep.
>> Ah— [stammering]
You?
[laughter] >> No, I mean your friend
who has all these prison torture tactics.
>> This is actually a completely different friend.
This is anecdotal.
A guy who was in the joint told me
that this is what they did to—
>> Torture people? >> Snitches.
There's no self-defense use for this.
>> Yeah, no, this is something
Modern Rogue needs to fear.
How about that? >> Yes, and I want to see
if it works, if it's an actual thing, I think it is.
>> BRIAN: So, because you're right, these stories,
you hear them and you're a teenager or a kid,
you're like, "Oh, sure, that makes sense."
But it's like, let's get some science behind it
and find out how bad it is.
All right. >> Well I wouldn't say "science."
>> BRIAN: Okay, describe for me this terrible torture.
>> JASON: All we need is an open flame,
trash bags, and toothpaste.
>> See, the toothpaste is the weird part to me.
>> Toothpaste is a multi-purpose thing in prison.
It's often used as adhesive, or to hide things.
One guy actually managed to file away his prison bars
and then glue them back into place with toothpaste.
>> Oh my god, imagine you're just there
and knowing at any moment, you could just go "Hi-ya!,"
and then out you go.
>> Exactly.
Now, they are often used as adhesives and things like that.
We're basically going to use this to make napalm.
>> All right, so we need some simulated flesh. >> This is really terrible.
>> Do we have that expired lunch meat?
>> JASON: [exasperatedly] Ugh, yeah.
>> BRIAN: The toothpaste is there to be sticky.
>> Yes.
>> But does the toothpaste burn?
>> I think it heats up and is sticky
and bubbling and hot.
>> BRIAN: But definitely the plastic
of this trash bag will burn, right?
>> Yeah, it is—
>> I'm just acting like I know,
I just assume you wrap
it around this stick and drip. >> I don't know!
I was only told about this like 25 years ago.
>> Only 25 years ago... >> Yeah!
>> So, like this? So we got—
>> JASON: I think—yeah.
>> Does that seem right? >> That should work, right?
>> We should have a way to put this out.
The twist ties!
>> Yeah, I have a bucket of water right here.
This is new territory, I don't know what's going to happen.
>> Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm totally just taking
the basics and just guessing.
I'm taking this and I'm taking two of them
and twisting them together.
So, this is a bunch, I'm going to squeeze
all of the toothpaste to the very front.
>> JASON: In my research, I was unable
to find anything about this.
>> BRIAN: Any reference. >> JASON: Any reference
to this whatsoever.
>> But allegedly, the story you heard
is that this was the punishment for snitches.
>> Yeah, someone who was laying down or sleeping.
>> Okay.
>> You light this like a torch, >> Yeah?
and let it—drip onto their face. >> BRIAN: Just let it drip all over them.
>> Okay, how fast does it take to burn?
Hold on, let me look this up.
This is a safety site on scald prevention,
it says at water temperature of 104 degrees,
you're safe to bathe.
At 120, you get third degree burns in five minutes.
At 130, you get third degree burns in 10 seconds.
At 155, 1-55 Fahrenheit,
you a get a third degree burn in one second.
And boiling water, obviously is even more,
it's 212 Fahrenheit, so basically,
♪ ♪
I just want to know what this does to flesh
and how bad it's going to mess you up.
>> What I am thinking is that
it is going to burn, yes,
but the main thing is you're going to have hot
plastic sticking
onto your skin and like fusing.
I don't know how you would get this out.
>> You can't get it off, I'm sure, I'm sure.
It's stuck on there, it's going to peel the skin right off.
Right, right?
>> Nightmare-ish. >> Right‽
>> JASON: Oh, god. >> BRIAN: Okay, so our big question is
how hot is it, and how does
it react when it splatters?
We should wear aprons.
>> JASON: Oh, yeah. >> BRIAN: Let's... safety break.
We are going to see how this drips.
You want to do it twice and test or just—
let's do it all at once. >> Yeah.
One of our job will be to get the temperature,
the other one will be to gauge the scariness.
We've got a fire extinguisher.
>> Bucket of water. >> If it gets scary,
put it in the bucket of water.
Wear these, for the love of goodness.
Once it burns and splatters,
you go ahead and put it out, we'll examine the splatter
and we'll examine the temperature
and how nasty and gnarly it is.
>> Okay, are we sure that
this is not going to set off the smoke alarm?
>> No, we're not.
>> [defeatedly] Okay.
>> BRIAN: Make sure you tip it down, and the moment the flame gets too big,
don't overreact, just dip it in the water.
>> JASON: It's going to be—[screaming] Throw it! [laughing]
>> You joke, but people do dumb [bleep]
when fire goes nuts.
>> I've seen you do dumb [bleep].
>> BRIAN: Yeah, all right, all right.
Whoop, get that away,
that's bad. >> JASON: Jeez!
>> BRIAN: It's fine.
[smashing]
>> There's literally no reason to do this.
>> The internet!
[smack]
>> JASON: So, imagine this person is...
this snitch is slumbering.
>> Is it not going?
[lighter flicks]
[light static]
>> BRIAN: Hey, you're burning your hand.
You're setting your glove on fire.
>> Yeah, that's bad.
>> Could we trade jobs?
>> That's bad. Uh yeah, sure.
>> Can I be the fire guy? >> Yeah, do that.
[blowtorch fuming]
>> JASON: Oh, that'll work.
[blowtorch fuming]
>> BRIAN: Oh, it's not—
[resumed fuming]
It's not melting or dripping.
[crackling sizzle]
I think that the toothpaste
didn't add very much to this at all.
I think the toothpaste is mostly water,
[laughter]
and it's actively stopping this from burning.
>> Yeah. >> I say we try
it again with just trash bag.
>> No, you're absolutely right, I think—
>> I think the toothpaste
is a dumb urban legend part of this.
>> Yeah!
[blowtorch firing]
I mean, here, look at this.
[blowtorch firing]
Yeah
didn't even sizzle.
>> Oh wow. >> Look at that, it's just sad bubble gum.
>> JASON: Yeah, and it's not like you're going
to have a torch.
>> Well, yeah! >> In prison.
>> [laughing] You're not going to have
a MAPP gas torch for sure.
>> Okay, well, let's try it with just the trash bags.
>> Just the trash bag.
>> I'm very disappointed.
>> Wow! >> And also kind of relieved?
>> Yeah! >> -at the same time.
>> BRIAN: I'm certainly surprised.
>> I knew he was full of [bleep].
[Brian's laughter]
♪ ♪ [blowtorch firing]
>> JASON: Okay, we're actually at 68
♪ [jazzy beat]
degrees. >> BRIAN: Boy, even this bag
doesn't even want to stay on fire.
>> Huh.
[blowtorch firing]
I'm sure these fumes are perfectly healthy.
[big woosh] >> BRIAN: [fading] It will not be the first time.
[typing] >> robot narrator: They are not.
[blowtorch firing]
>> I mean, I guess at this point,
you just, there you go, there you go!
>> JASON: 71, it's really not jumping up that high.
It's only getting to 78, it's 71.
[affecting his Space Razor Blade accent] >> BRIAN: Punishment for snitching,
...is itching.
Itching and burning!
>> Yeah, and it dries immediately.
>> BRIAN: Yeah, I guess that's the next thing
we'll want to test is trying to pick that off of flesh. >> Right.
>> Remember that the light and the sensor
don't exactly line up.
The light is above the sensor. >> JASON: Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's much hotter.
>> Yeah, I think you were just aiming off.
>> Yeah, that's— we're at 150 degrees.
Anywhere, yeah. >> BRIAN: This is instant
third degree burns, all over the place.
>> We're going up to like 200 degrees there.
>> Holy crap.
>> JASON: Yeah, 185, 186, 206, if you get the light
just above it where the sensor is correct.
Oh man, it's picking up like 450 degrees.
>> 450 degrees of instantly sticky, tacky liquid.
>> JASON: 380 degrees.
>> All right, here, let's take it over to new flesh.
>> Yeah, we're up to like 193, 203.
>> So that's boiling water temperatures
of stuff. >> JASON: 320 degrees.
300 degree, yeah. >> What about over here?
>> 199, 212.
>> God, that looks awful. >> Yeah.
>> I'm going to take it back, I'm going to walk it back.
I'm going to say the story is true
except for just not about toothpaste. >> JASON: Yeah yeah.
So yeah, once you get it going like this? >> Yeah.
>> 500 degrees right there.
>> Here, I got this.
Look at that. >> JASON: 600 degrees.
>> BRIAN: Boy, look at that, even after,
even after the fire goes out,
it's still smoldering and boiling.
>> 400 degrees.
>> Oh my god!
♪ [horns blare of smooth beat]
[each hit of molten plastic dramatically stings and sizzles the meat]
>> BRIAN: Yeah, so, 400 degree
molten lava splashing on your body.
Okay, I'm calling it. >> Okay.
I'm going to soak this, I'm putting this in.
>> Yeah, dump that.
[Brian shudders]
>> Wow.
>> I don't want any part of this.
>> I mean, this is, I don't know that
the toothpaste has anything to do with it,
but you had it at what, 400 degrees plus?
>> Yeah. >> And in this case,
we have this nice moisture coating on here, so it peels off.
But imagine that's just fused...
>>> BOTH: To your skin.
>> JASON: Yeah. >> BRIAN: And it's like, and that's a big glob.
Look [stammers] you're trying to pick that off,
and it's just peeling your flesh up with it.
>> Yeah. >> God, that would be brutal.
>> If this were dry like actual human flesh?
>> You would be ruined. >> Yeah.
Like look at that, it just, it's fused on there.
>> JASON: You're not going to eat it, are you?
>> Oh, god no.
>> Yeah, it's just, like
scabby.
>> This is closer, you can see this is a place
where the meat actually burned and fused to it.
That just seems horrific.
>> This would be hell.
>> Well, and keep in mind, this meat was cooled
to what, 60 degrees?
>> Yeah. >> So, it's much lower
than body temperature, it's covered in moisture.
This legend, where does it land on the spectrum of truth?
>> I would say pretty close to 100% true.
Once you remove the toothpaste, absolutely effective.
>> Yeah, you think the toothpaste part
was just nonsense?
>> I still think there might be a way that we could
get the toothpaste to work, but why?
Because this accomplished everything.
>> Exactly.
Here's what I know for sure,
is that that stuff is way hotter and way nastier
than I dared fear.
This is genuinely horrifying,
and that if anybody is dumb enough to be thinking
of melting plastic near their flesh, they should reconsider.
>> Yeah, this is a horrible nightmare
and it will disfigure you forever.
>> Yeah, don't burn plastic.
[Brian chiming a jaunty tune]
[Jason laughing]
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[fire burning and sizzling]
♪ [slow conclusion to mellow music]
[static, wind, and sizzling]